^ Changed title to "franchise so far", so now you can pick one of the three. :)
I like KFP2 the most by a hair, with KFP1 as a close second. The first film established everything in such a beautiful way, but I very much like and appreciate how KFP2 expanded on that by taking a dark turn. Really wish KFP3 had continued with it; I think it tried to with Kai, but it ended up not really working with me.
First KFP still feels the the most balanced and well-done overall. Action, comedy, story, characterization, drama-- it was handled the best, IMO. It feels like it had the most genuine message and was the broadest in tone, whereas both sequels feel like they shift to cater to certain audiences more.
Also, people really don't give enough credit to the original film's directors. They really put a lot of thought and care into Kung Fu Panda, a concept that sounded so understandably dumb and ready to become a project for another DreamWorks spoof -- before those two guys decided otherwise.
I agree, though, that the original directors really made Kung Fu Panda what it is (or what it's supposed to be, anyway). Still love Jen, but it's nice to see the original guys' work when I rewatch the first film.
Ya, the original movie was pretty good and I think since it was the first movie, and because It was the start of the whole franchise and its fans, I do believe that it deserves the most credit, although I still love kfp2's serious side. On the other hand Kfp3 did not not really move me as much as the first 2 movies did. Hopefully the next movies won't be letdowns, although I'm not really worried, after how well all three movies did at the box office. :D
I still love the secodn film the most for its dark atmosphere and themes. Shen was a great villain, well written. As was the entire film. It explored new emotions that the first film lacked, and did very well because of it.
^ I like Kung Fu Panda 2's serious and emotional parts to it, but I also love the original movie. The first KFP started it all and I would say It really does balance things the best. The Music was great, the villian, Tai Lung was in my opinion, the scariest out of all the KFP villians. A good movie, that started the legendary franchise :D
KFP3: I don't think its serious enough
KFP2: Maybe, a little too serious
KFP1: Great balance of both seriousness and light heartedness
The first movie is my favourite....how Po lacks of self-esteem but he hides it....how he hates being himself...how, at the end, his weakness becomes their strenghs....it was perfect. It was touching because it reminds me.
^ They are pretty good too! The second it's better than the third but all together they make a good trilogy. I'm not going to lie...the third one was all the time "wow" because they showed A LOT OF THINGS and i was like DAMN IT...FINISHED ALREADY? I felt like i needed more...i need to know more! They gave me a little taste and then run away from me!
The second one in general was pretty balanced between sad moments, fights and happy moments...i cried a lot. (Mom's scene in the third one make me cry too you were able to see a big boy between children inside the cinema crying like a baby)
Dreamworks please give us the name of panda mom! xD
^ Lol, another falsely reported date. Saying it again: Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia, or other wiki projects (yes, even this one, but perhaps less so because sources are always double-checked here), or any other non-reliable source on the Internet.
Please also keep this thread about favorites of the first 3 films - discussion about the 4th film is in this thread.
My favorite out of all of them is probably KFP 3.It had a lotta good fight scene and the Villain Kai was really epic and reminded me of The Mortal Combat Villains.Another thing I liked about the 3rd one is that it showed po finally seeing his father again after all those years of being separated and also po finally finding himself with the help of his dad and the other pandas and learning more about his past.It reminded me a lot of the first one,with lots of humor and the supernatural Villain.I have only seen part of the 2nd one so I can't say much about it,but I will say that I think The 3rd one is a good turning point for the franchise and that the next 3 movies are gonna be EPIC!!
Antrophilia999 said: My favorites is 1 and 3, Both are are more funny, Furious Five do minor appearances and the main villains Tai Lung and Kai looks more scary and tougher.
Am I the only one who like 1 and 3 and for that reason?!
I especially like KFP 1 for Tai Lung but tbh KFP 3 didn't really get me. It had way too much humor and Kai seemed underdeveloped as well as I kinda felt they abandoned quite a few things that they had in the first 2 movies. I also felt sad that there wasn't enough of the other "Original" characters. Of course the movie was really about Po becoming the true Dragon Warrior and not about the others' destinies, so I suppose I shouldn't be complaining XD
This is actually a really hard question. All of the movies are really good. But in Kung Fu Panda 3, the villian, Kai, they could've done better with him. Kai done bad things, but he just didn't seem to be serious. Shen, though, was a total different story. In my opinion, Shen was the most aggresive, serious villian in the Kung Fu Panda Series. But, anyways, my favorite movie might actually be Kung Fu Panda 2...
Am I the only one who dislike KFP 2 and like more KFP 1 and 3?!
It was a bit too dark and intense theme, especially for the protagonist Po who are funny, mildly and lighthearted for that theme. That the mission was a little too much and risky for Po since I think he's still an innocent, especially since he's a funny, mildy and lighthearted panda who be seen as a innocent, cute and playful animal, although he defeated Tai Lung on is own and is a kung fu master now, but is was only Tai Lung Po challenged and it seemed a bit like he was just lucky and defeated Tai Lung at random.
It focuses more on Furious Five and I'm not even particularly interested in them than i am on Po.
I'm the only one who like better Tai Lung and Kai? Although KFP2 was a bit to dark, the antagonist Shen looks less frightening than Tai Lung (as one of the critics also think) since he's a peafowl that don't be seen as a threatening bird, although he was responsible for Po's mother's death and that Po was separated from his parents and perhaps the only villain who wanted to conqured China, but I would that either Tai Lung or Kai who could have been responsible for the panda massacre instead. Peafowls are known as one of the most beautiful and majstetic and don't be seen as frightening birds, but can have a arrogant nature, reminds the mythical bird "phonix" and use their feathers with eye-like spots to scare away enemies as Shen in a way did when he make Po to see a vision of Po's terrible past with his spots since he was responsible for it. I like better that is lighter and softer, but atleast the same time that the villains looks both terrifying and has a evil nature.
Shen is possible weaker than Tai Lung and Kai, even with his cannon. even Tai Lung was shown to be cunning and swift enough to avoid firing weapons and was able to defeat the Anvil of Heaven, the Furious Five and Shifu on his own and Kai easily took chi from many kung fu masters on his own.
There were many things that didn't make any sense.
Why was Shen evil? it show first he wanted to make weapons with fireworks gunpower because he wanted to rule over China, but how can he become evil because of that and why he wanted to rule over China that had nothing to do with him and not only his own kingdom. Shen would at least get his will to rule over a kingdom since he was even a prince and the only heir after his parents to rule over their kingdom, usually princes and princesses who have and are jealous of their older siblings who are the next to rule over their kingdom and advisers who dislike their job or never get any praise and honor, become powerhungry and will only rule over their own kingdom instead of entire country or the world that have nothing to with them.
Why did Shen want to make an end of kung fu? Shen was even a kung fu master, kung fu had nothing to do with his backstory, his main goal was to conquer China and kung fu could also be useful to conquer China. Shen created a cannon that would put an end of kung fu, but it's not only kung fu it should make an end of if there are anything else that are as powerful or more powerful than kung fu, like chi.
How could the kung fu masters believe cannon could put an end kung fu, not even first that Shen atleast had more than one cannon to put an end of kung fu and conquer China and create multiple cannons quickly that they should rather stop him from doing instead, and how could even Po believe a cannon figurine was Shen's actual cannon when it was too small too put an end of kung fu and conquer China and didn't even laugh because of that?
Why did only Po and the Furious Five go to stop Shen, wasn't there many other kung fu masters than just Po, the Furious Five, Shifu, Storming Ox and Croc who could also go to stop Shen if they needed more help?
Are not kung fu masters smarter, too quick and has high strength to hit the cannons? The kung fu masters seem weaker than they normally are because of they doubted over themselves because of the cannon, but cannon is too slow and heavy to swing fast enough to shoot and can't shoot in all directions in one time if there are many more kung fu masters than cannons and are in different directions, even Tai Lung was shown to be cunning and swift enough to avoid firing weapons and was able to defeat the Anvil of Heaven, the Furious Five and Shifu on is own, Tigress hit the cannon down to the bottom floor of Tower of the Sacred Flame and Kai easily defeated many kung fu masters by taking their chi on his own. Shen must at least have kung fu skills and learn his wolf and gorilla army kung fu to defeat kung fu masters and could study and develope a dark and stronger kung fu style to put an end of other traditional kung fu styles. Kai and Taotie could make an end of kung fu, Kai easily defeat many kung fu masters by taking their chi on his own and once Taotie created a machin that easily defeat Po, Shifu and Furiouse Five (without Tigress).
Why was Shen's gorilla army also loyal to Shen if they didn't also massacred the panda village and wasn't exiled too?
Why did Thundering Rhino let himself get a blow by cannon instead of to step aside?
How could the other kung fu masters survive blow from the cannon when Thundering Rhino who was easily die of just a one blow, but bigger and stronger ? Po survived probably because of his enormous body fat. but Thundering Rhino was even bigger and stronger.
Wasn't most important to stop Shen from conqured China than to stop him to put an end of kung fu?
Did Shen want to take revenge on his parents? It were his parents who banished Shen becasue he want to conquer China and massacred pandas, but why did Shen still want to seek revenge when his parents was nevertheless died before his return?
Why is Thundering Rhino's physical appearance different than in Kung Fu Panda Holiday?
Why is shown in the credits of Kung Fu Panda 2 Po made the the Furious Five action figures when he was a child if he was fan of kung fu since he was a teenager and the Furious Five were just formed then as reveald in Secrets of the Scroll?
Why is even shown or mentioned that Shen began his plan years before or it was lesser than 30 years ago for the panda massacre or when he was exiled if it was 20 years ago as revealed in Kung Fu Panda 3?
In Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness, Po never went to school as a cub. However, in the credits of Kung Fu Panda 2, young Po is seen in a schoolhouse.
EDIT: Added option to collapse the text. Pretty long and detailed post, which I personally appreciate, but it's making the thread longer to scroll through. XD --§ρøττεδςταrღ(talk)
The Furious Five make more appearances and I'm not even particularly interested in them.
I don't like the antagonist Shen, although just he was responsible for that he killed Po's mother and that Po was separated from his parents, but I wanted that either Tai Lung or Kai could have caused the panda massacre instead. As a peafowl, he looks less scary than Tai Lung and Kai and one of the critics have said the same opinion.
There were some things that didn't make any sense. It does not explain first that Shen would create weapons to take over China and why he was evil.
Well I do agree that KFP 2 did seem a little to dark but thats still alright in my opinion. It made everything more emotional. And for Shen, yes he looks less scary. But does that still mean he isn't just as good a villian as the other two. Yes he is not as big and strong as the other two, but he has things the other villians do not have. And what happened to that saying brain is better then bron. Of course Shen isn't my favorite villian but that doesn't mean he isn't still a good villian. And for the Furious Five....... I am very found of them and I am very happy they got actual good screen time in tje movie. I mean seriously without good side characters movies would just be plain terrible :)
TheGuardianOfTheYinAndYang said: I like Kung Fu Panda 2's serious and emotional parts to it, but I also love the original movie. The first KFP started it all and I would say It really does balance things the best. The Music was great, the villian, Tai Lung was in my opinion, the scariest out of all the KFP villians. A good movie, that started the legendary franchise :D
KFP3: I don't think its serious enough
KFP2: Maybe, a little too serious
KFP1: Great balance of both seriousness and light heartedness
Here's how I would define the tone of great movies and franchises:
Any movie or show that starts out as lighthearted (Kung Fu Panda, How to Train Your Dragon, Toy Story, Ben 10) would definitely improve with a darker and more mature sequel that balances out the fun and the whimsicalness. An obvious example of this is Kung Fu Panda 2.
Any movie or show that starts out dark or cynical (Batman, Shrek) would benefit from having a sequel that's lighter but still retains the mature tone. An example of this would be Shrek 2, which cut the black comedy but made the story more mature than the first one.
Furrytopia said: Am I the only one who dislike KFP 2 and like more KFP 1 and 3?!
And people like you are the reason why we can't have nice things in this franchise.
I wanted to call this trilogy the Best Trilogy Ever, but with the letdown of Kung Fu Panda 3 (which fits all of your expectations, by the way) I'm afraid I can't do that.
There were some things that didn't make any sense, it does not explain first that Shen would create weapons to take over China and why he was evil.
Shen created the cannon because he discovered it, like so many people made different discoveries during the Renaissance.
But Shen decided to use his newfound innovations to attack rather than protect. To conquer rather than to defend.
And when warned about his flaws, he refused to take the hint.
Mine would be KFP2 as the first preference, a good balance between action, dark and humour, an the last reunion of Po and Mr Ping was an incredible icing in the cake, I cried everytime I watched it. How heart moving to see, two creatures, not related by blood, sharing a bond of father and son based solely by love.
Second one would be KFP1, I love it, it was funny and Tai Lung was an excellent villain to start the franchise, giving a little twist on his backstory, the reason why Shifu and Tigress behave like they did in the movie, and how Po fit into fixing everything for them with his usual goofiness, innocence and benevolence.
KFP 3 is a good movie, but not as great as the other two. I feel the plot was rushed (suddenly they were in panda village... tadah!), I feel those silly moments with the pandas could be cut a little bit, there were too many new characters for such a short movie, I barely knew each of them (3 masters and numerous pandas). Kai could be very well a formidable, scary, spirit warrior... but I felt his existence was undermined by the cuteness of the pandas and many slapstick jokes. And I find the 'moving scene' of Po asking about his mother not as moving as his with Mr Ping.
^ Holy crap, I accidentally said that Po was a villain. Major proofreading fail on my part.
Yeah, Po definitely didn't cause any genocide, that's for sure.
I don't want to argue with a guy/gal who agrees with my choice, but I just want to point out where i'm coming from.
Both Shen and Po were ambitious (Shen wants to build a great weapon, Po wants to learn Kung Fu).
Both Kung Fu and Cannons are deadly when armed in the wrong hands (Tai Lung with Kung Fu, Shen with the Cannons). Plus, one could defeat the other depending on the wielder (Shen defeated Rhino, Po defeated Shen).
Shen and Po both achieve their initial goals (Shen builds his cannons, Po learns Kung Fu). But Po uses his gift to protect and not to destroy.
Po can wield his power responsibly, while the more Shen takes, the less restraint the peacock has.
Both have loving parents, but Shen ultimately chose his dreams over his parents' happiness.
Shen snaps and lashes when faced with the root of his trauma, while Po overcomes it.
I'm pretty sure there are other similiarities and differences, but I think I've pretty much nailed the main bulk of it.
In my opinion the second movie was the best one in the whole KFP-Saga and one of the best animated movies ever. Its so deep and dark. I love that. Also, the characters are written very well. The first was a really good one as well. KFP1 had the best fighting scenes, I think. But fights in KP2 are also great.
However, I have my struggles with KFP3 because it is not like the two predecessors. Not at all. The movie is too silly and destroys the previous development of each character.
I also think KFP 2 is the best film so far is because of Shen. I really didn't like him at first but now I love him xD. I feel really sorry for him because I think that he acts like a big bad villain, and that nothing can affect him, but really he's crying inside :(. Especially in the scene where the soothsayer tells Shen that his parents DID love him, he seems like he's about to cry! Aww, that would have been so sad, but cute. He seems really depressed there and I think that is his secret personality, which is why he let the cannon fall on him, he wanted to die.
Anyways, sorry for that load of fangirl crap, when I start talking about Shen I can't stop xD
I think KFP 2 is the best film as well, because of the wolf army, Wolf Boss, but the primary favorite of mine is Shen, where he commits a mass killing of pandas. The worst part is that he was crushed at the end.