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  • In light of the fans that are already looking forward to the next film (assuming there will be one), here's a discussion thread on what you'd like to see, or what you think you WILL see, etc.

    EDIT (June 19, 2017): The thread is getting kind of long due to double posts, back-and-forth arguing, and lots of blockquotes, so I cleaned up a bit. If you notice a comment missing or changed, that's the reason. Also, friendly reminder to please follow all general discussion rules.

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    • Return of Tai Lung.

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    • The Pandas from the 3rd Film get introduced more.

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    • Maybe Tigress Orgins finds her family in trouble or something then some Tipo moments

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    • Lol, seems like everyone just wants to make a quick list. No discussion then? :P

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    • Something so dark and evil it will shock the fans to their cores. Something so unprecedanted, a story so demonic, chilling and emontionally traumatizing it will bring new meaning to the universe of Kung Fu Panda. 

      The trials and tribulations Po will have to face will be his most challenging and unrelenting yet. 

      Also TiPo finds its way into the movie because the characters have so little left to cling onto except for each other. 

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    • Since Skunkman (James Wood) was replaced by Master Storming Ox in the 2nd chapter, he should make his first appearance in the fourth chapter.

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    • Zaralith said: Something so dark and evil it will shock the fans to their cores. Something so unprecedanted, a story so demonic, chilling and emontionally traumatizing it will bring new meaning to the universe of Kung Fu Panda. 

      I know something dark, so evil, so unprecedented, so demonic, so chilling, and also, so traumatizing.


      How about a bake-kujira with these powers?:

      • Fire Generation
      • Enhanced Combat
      • Enhanced Strength
      • Demon Creation
      • Pain Inducement
      • Wrath Embodiment
      • Fear Inducement
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    • Zaralith said:
      Something so dark and evil it will shock the fans to their cores. Something so unprecedanted, a story so demonic, chilling and emontionally traumatizing it will bring new meaning to the universe of Kung Fu Panda. 

      The trials and tribulations Po will have to face will be his most challenging and unrelenting yet. 

      Also TiPo finds its way into the movie because the characters have so little left to cling onto except for each other. 

      For me Kai was going to be darker but he was softened, i believe this is the reason why Mads Mikkelsen got out of the movie after the rewrite happen. Kung Fu Panda never was too dark, it was dark for sure, but never too dark. But the last movie prove Dreamwork is moving with the franchise to the side of the Nickelodeon series "Legends of Awesomeness", the last movie has too much comedy, it felt soo soft.

      I believe what i would love to see in the next movie is Tai Lung, but clearly we alredy saw one being coming out of the Spirit Realm, so they need to show this in a new way if they are going to do it. But what i want the most is that if they do a new movie they explore finally the relationship of Tigress and Po.

      Because in the Second Movie, i felt like they were going to do it, they did give a lot of hints of how maybe Po and Tigress have something going on more than only a friendship, but now in the last movie she is only a friend?

      So ironically the Four Movie of Toy Story and the Four Movie of Kung Fu Panda need to treat the same theme, a relationship. 

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    • Yeah, really not getting why people STILL want Tai Lung back. I thought that fad was long over. He was a great villain at the time, but he's been completely overshadowed by Shen, and now Kai. A guy who's just good at kung fu is simply not that impressive anymore. Maybe if they actually went the redemption route and made him into a sort of anti-hero, searching for a new purpose in life now that he can't be the Dragon Warrior. That would be pretty cool. 

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    • One of several drafts of KFP4 !!!!

      1. New Masters:

      - Master Scarab

      - Master Vulture

      - Master Frog

      - Master Crab

      and others...

      2. There will be two villains opposite sex representing the Yin (female) and Yang (male) with their clans of warriors.

      ~Goals:

      - Usurp villages and buy mercenaries;

      - Increase their clans;

      - Overthrow the Chinese Empire;

      - Create a revolution in the country to end the Kung Fu.;

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    • I Believe we alredy saw two villains who wanted the end of the Kung Fu each own for his own reasons, we need something new and fresh. The only thing i know they have to do in a sequel is give Po and Tigress a Relationship.

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    • Something actually occured to me recently. The standard method of learning kung fu is to find a style that suits your natural abilitites and fit into that mold. Judging by what we've seen, Po's learning method is to use your natural abilities to create your own, completely unique style. That presents a MASSIVE paradigm shift if this is really going to be the future of kung fu. There's a lot of possibilities that open up with that. Maybe Po opens his own school and has to juggle that insane amount of new resposiblity while also dealing with more "traditionalist" opposition. As far as themes go, we've had, in order: validation, acceptance, and identity. I think change would be an appropriate one for the next film. 

      Speaking of change, can we get a new outfit for Po already? He's a full-fledged master now, it's about time he looked the part. 

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    • In Kung Fu Panda 4, Po and the Furious Five should join forces with Master(s) Bear, Chicken and Croc, as well as Skunkman (who was supposed to be in the second chapter) and hopefully, a rhino to help stop a threat more formidable than Kai.

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    • Berserker88x said:
      Speaking of change, can we get a new outfit for Po already? He's a full-fledged master now, it's about time he looked the part.

      Ikr, he really does need new clothes. Too bad he didn't get to keep those totally epic clothes from the spirit realm. :P

      I just finally watched it today! Yay! It was soooo epic!!!

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    • As much i read.... it could be very interesting to see a female villian, or Po should have a younger student  ( something like.... the music video Nunchunck Princess when he trains Mei Mei)and he would become his succesor like Oogway, more envolve with the characters. I KNOW is about Po´s funny and awesome adventures to become a master, but with this three movies... i realise, Li Shan, Mr Ping, Shifu and Tigress are the most important characters in his life, and thanks to this 4 chars ( and of course the others furious five) ,Po is growing up, mostly Tigress because she is kinda like a platonic partner to Po when they´re talking about each other about personal things and sparring and all that stuff

      And of couse.... a perfect soundtrack as always!

      Well... this is what i think 

      And sorry for my bad english <:)

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    • What's the thing with Tai Lung? He's awesome, but I think we're done with him. If he ever did come back, I would prefer for him to return as a friend, not a bad guy again. 

      Also, I don't really know what the rest of the movies will be about now that Po's mastered chi! What more is there? The Celestial Phoenix? No jk he already tried that. XD 

      Is it for sure that his mom is dead? Cause we didn't actually see her die, and Li didn't either, did he? So what if in the 4th movie they somehow find Po's mom? There's not much chance that she's alive, but there's always hope, of course. 

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    • I have a feeling the fourth movie is going to parallel KFP 2 and its serious, gloomy, feel like how KFP 3 paralleled KFP 1's lightheartedness and humor. Bet they're gonna sneak some TIPO in as well.

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    • ^ Agree, maybe some more interactions between Po and Tigress as always

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    • Wolf boss returns & kills mr. ping to make things personal with Po!

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    • ^ This.

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    • ^^ No. Just no.

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    • I think it would be cool for Kung Fu Panda 4 take place during the modern era in Hong Kong, where the tradition of Kung Fu is nearly rendered obsolete by modern day technology and outside cultural influences. It would be cool if it took place in Hong Kong, or some animalistic version of it. It could have the main character, a leopard, trying to survive in the slums of Hong Kong. He could find out that he is to be the next Dragon Warrior. Just the basis for an idea really. Another idea would be an invasion from an outside country, like Mongolia or something, by the Tiger (who would be heavily armored in furs and the mask of a demon) who is in charge of a underground terrorist group trying to take down the empire/ ruling class in China. Plot twist, the Tiger is Tigresses Mom/Dad/Brother/Sister. Who abandoned her because they didn't want her taken from them due to her being the daughter of an infamous terrorist/ rebellion like organization. The leader ends up dying and Tigress takes the side of the rebellion, which is against wishes of Po and some of the other Five. Heck, it could be the Civil War of Kung Fu Panda. It could split the Furious five (six), and have them fighting each other. I don't know. There are a lot of potential story ideas. It'll be hard to follow up with something even better than the third movie though. How To Train Your Dragon 3 is going to be incredibly good/sad, from what I've heard. The unfortunate part is that they really don't have many other things to explore with Po. Not successfully at least. Then again, if being are being paid to brainstorm this stuff, I think they'll pull something incredible out of it.

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    • hopefullly tipo happens to fill in the romantic plot left out in kfp3 (and also because i ship them)

      also the villain shakes the way po looks at kungfu and the world around him

      also kfp4 should take a somehow darker theme bur does not overshadow the comedy

      lastly bthe ending should have a small cliffhanger that truly confirms a kfp5

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    • I think it would be cool for Kung Fu Panda 4 parallels Kung Fu Panda 2. There's another villain who parallels Lord Shen and is going to be an evil and cruel orangutan who used to be Oogway's apprentice.

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    • Im wondering whats most likely the next step for the franchise? I think thats one question that everyone is wondering. Althogh i would have many guesses of what may happen next you can never be to sure with kung fu panda. But i have heard of many things that people would like to see in the future of kung fu panda like, The Return of Tai Lung. For that i do not know if it will happen, but it might be possible,  concluding that both Shen and Kai died but most likely Tai Lung was sent to the spirit realm. So basically if Tai Lung is alive, there must have been a reason for it. But if he does return i think there's a possibility he will be a good guy in the end (slight possibility ). I also know that a good amount of Kung Fu Panda fans want TiPo to happen( a.k.a. Po and Tigress romance ). Well i don't know. I do not know if The Kung Fu Panda team wants to do that or not, but we will have to find out. After all after shipping a hippo and and a giraffe, i do not think thats unlikely for dreamworks. If they do end up going with Tipo they should make Po and Tigress like the yeam of yin and yang. Well all i have to say if they were going to ship Po at all, especially if it came down to ethier Tigress or mei mei, well lets just say i'll go with Tipo.

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    • TheGuardianOfTheYinAndYang said:

      Well all i have to say if they were going to ship Po at all, especially if it came down to ethier Tigress or mei mei, well lets just say i'll go with Tipo.

      Mei Mei will go with the goofy panda with a hat named Big Fun.

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    • ^ Alright, though its Kinda wierd that she ends up with that guy, in the end.

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    • TheGuardianOfTheYinAndYang said:

      Im wondering whats most likely the next step for the franchise? I think thats one question that everyone is wondering. Althogh i would have many guesses of what may happen next you can never be to sure with kung fu panda. But i have heard of many things that people would like to see in the future of kung fu panda like, The Return of Tai Lung. For that i do not know if it will happen, but it might be possible,  concluding that both Shen and Kai died but most likely Tai Lung was sent to the spirit realm. So basically if Tai Lung is alive, there must have been a reason for it. But if he does return i think there's a possibility he will be a good guy in the end (slight possibility ). I also know that a good amount of Kung Fu Panda fans want TiPo to happen( a.k.a. Po and Tigress romance ). Well i don't know. I do not know if The Kung Fu Panda team wants to do that or not, but we will have to find out. After all after shipping a hippo and and a giraffe, i do not think thats unlikely for dreamworks. If they do end up going with Tipo they should make Po and Tigress like the yeam of yin and yang. Well all i have to say if they were going to ship Po at all, especially if it came down to ethier Tigress or mei mei, well lets just say i'll go with Tipo.

      Sounds pretty good, but the return of a villian is cliché, i know he could be a good guy but is better to have new stories than just lock in the past.

      And for Po and Tigress, they should represent the Yin and Yang like this (Fanart by KungFuFreak07)

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    • ^ Po and Tigress have opposite personalities, thats why people say the're like Yin and Yang. I do not think Dreamworks will go with that though. But its a good comparison.

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    • There is also some minor symbolism of the whole Yin and Yang thing during their fight in the second movie. The room was in the shape of Yin-Yang symbol. That is one of the numerous other occasions in which a similar event happened. Whether they ever decide to do anything with it is up the future filmmakers.

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    • ^Actually, Po himself represents yin and yang. There's a lot of visual symbolism to support this: him being black and white, being both tough and soft, the prophecy; he literally makes a yin-yang symbol when battling Shen, and unlike the room thing, it's obviously intentional. And the filmmakers have said themselves that Po represents yin and yang. Just Po.

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    • Darkseidkillsall01 said:
      There is also some minor symbolism of the whole Yin and Yang thing during their fight in the second movie. The room was in the shape of Yin-Yang symbol. That is one of the numerous other occasions in which a similar event happened. Whether they ever decide to do anything with it is up the future filmmakers.

      Ya, I did notice that too.

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      Actually, Po himself represents yin and yang. There's a lot of visual symbolism to support this: him being black and white, being both tough and soft, the prophecy; he literally makes a yin-yang symbol when battling Shen, and unlike the room thing, it's obviously intentional. And the filmmakers have said themselves that Po represents yin and yang. Just Po.

      Ya, Po himself definitely represents Yin and Yang in some way. Although i have to say the Yin and Yang represents 2 opposite things working together as one, no mater the difference, this was shown in a few other movies besides KFP. So Yin and Yang consists of 2 as 1. But who knows what the KFP people will do XD.

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    • i'm not hoping TiPo or Tigress story..what i want KFP4 is real fight, real battle, awesome villain with a sword.. then po will fighting him using the sword of heroes.. OMG that would be a great, badass, cool, awesome fight ever! oh, i hope there is sad moment.. i mean REALLY sad momen, like this.. Li is dead because saving Mr. Ping from the attack of the villain, 

      (yeah i think this is ruthless) Po is really2 angry then conduct his true power.. maybe using his master chi's suit.

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    • ^ I think that you have pretty good point, if the new villian in KFP 4, kills one of his fathers or loved ones that will make Po quite Furious, although i don't think they will make any of the heros die. On the other hand i do feeel its likely in at  one of next KFP movies, Master Shifu may pass away. Plus I think we have already seen Po's highest power in The third movie, but you never know. I do think there should be a sad momment in KFP 4 as you said though. Like if someone risked the're for someone else, as you said.

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    • ^I have a feeling that Master Shifu will die in one of the movies as well. :'( For some reason I thought it would happen in the third one, but after watching it, I was like "Yaaaay he didn't die!" XD

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    • My idea:

      After event of KFP 3,all pandas have come to Valley of peace,and Shifu got sick,and is getting old. After few days,Shifu dies,and Po must now be master of Jade palace.

      Later,a group of kung fu masters lead by Master Giant Squid (i still didn't make a name for him),a legendary kung fu master,known for that he created special technique so he don't need water to live for few days,even that he is a water animal. Other members are also water animals,and they learnt that same technique by Giant Squid,and they are:Master Spider Crab,Master Electric Eel,Master Starfish and Master Ray Fish(or whatever that thing is called). Everyone in Valley of Peace though they come to finaly meet masters of jade palace,but later Po find out that,all those years of learning new Kung Fu techniques,they have find out about Water Sapphire,a special stone that is in secret cave somewhere in mountains in Valley of Peace. The one who has sapphire can control water,and Giant Squid wants to use it and soak all China and rest of the world.

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    • Wow, there are so many different ideas for the next movie that you guys mentioned, possibilities are quite endless.I think that a bunch of these ideas are creative and interesting, but remember you can never expect anything for a future movie, unless the movies before a new sequel, gives hints to what might happen next. But still it is so much fun guessing what the KFP 4 movie will be about. Myself, I have seen quite a few interesting ideas.


      Kai and Oogway fought a army as said in KFP 3. But who was leading the evil army???

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    • ^ i dont know

      kai

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    • ^ It was not Kai, for he was fighting along side Oogway, against the army. Possibly a villian that must be faced in the next movie??? Maybe?

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    • The Next Kung Fu Panda Movie should consist of the following:

      Master Skunkman (James Wood) (Runs on Fours; Walks Upright)

      Great Wall of China

      Gigantopithecus

      A Threat more formidable than Kai

      Indian Rhinoceros (Runs on Fours; Walks Upright)

      Mrs. Ping (Mr. Ping's girlfriend in the end)

      Avalanche Scene

      Epic Music from Hans Zimmer and (hopefully) John Debney!

      Po's Dragon Warrior Outfit Again!

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    • ^ My thoughts:

      Defiantly a threat worse than Kai

      Once again Po Dragon warrior outfit for sure

      Avalanche seen would be cool 

      New animals, YES!

      Awesome battle theme!

      Hopefully more of Shifu and The Furious Five, please! Maybe one of them will leave the jade palace in seek of a new destiny?

      Return of Tai Lung please, maybe as a good guy?

      New styles of kung fu and new fighting of techniques?

      And More e.t.c.

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    • Sounds like somebody needs to write a fanfic. ;)

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    • Here is a idea i have for a Kung Fu Panda 4 Scene and it involves tipo and it's also the scene where Po defeats the villain: "After Po chases the Villain on top of one of the Palace Roofs,the Villain takes Tigress hostage and during this whole sequence,both of them,fearing it may be their final moments together,admit their love for each other.And at the last minute,Po uses the wixi-finger move and saves the day".I think this would be a really sad but heroic scene.

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    • I would like it if we got to see some more of the beautiful scenery from kung fu panda 1. What if that was were the finale battle took place, up in the mountains near the pool of sacred tears, or maybe those fields were Po first trained. That would be so cool. I also think it would be cool to see, who was in charge of the army who defeated Kai and Oogway in Kung Fu Panda 3. Maybe we will see him in 4. Anyways the new kind of plot would have to be somthing quite new, I think maybe a new animal never seen in kung fu panda before would be cool. Also I still think it would be interesting to see Tai Lung again, except as a good guy, and maybe he dies trying to save china and he finally finds fulfillment and is happy he changed before passing away, Idk. Whatever the story just please, Dreamworks make it good.

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    • I hope the other members of the Furious Five and the secondary characters will be correctly developped, and that the scenario will be superexcellent.

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    • Would definitely like to see some focus and development for others in the Five, especially Crane. But I'd take anyone besides Tigress at this point.

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    • I honestly don't care if the other members of the Five get more screentime or not, at least as far as the films are concerned. I'd much rather they keep the focus on Po, Tigress, Shifu, and whatever big guest stars are relevant, because making sure they get enough focus is infinitely more important than giving it to the secondary characters who technically have more screentime than 90% of the cast anyway. If they manage to do both, great, but the current formula of regulating the side characters to shorts is completely fine with me. 

      (Incidentally, I really want a panda villagers short.) 

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    • I hope the scenarists and the actors will be again more passionate by this three next movies.

      VaporMist said: Would definitely like to see some focus and development for others in the Five, especially Crane. But I'd take anyone besides Tigress at this point.

      I too would definitely like to see some focus and development for others in the Five; and I hope the scenarists and the actors will be again more passionate by this three next movies.

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    • I don't understand why Shifu must die, he's one of the most important characters to the plot, but we know really little about his life. I think KFP4 should be more serious and focus Master Shifu. I don't know what kind of villain we'll see, but I wish it were a character close to Po, which it will become evil for some reason (such as Shifu or one of the Furious) 

      Sorry for my bad english, I'm Italian ;)

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    • I think alot of us agree now that po has found "MOST" of his destiny, it would be more interesting to get into the lives of the other main characters, but of course we should still see Po a good amount too. After all it IS called Kung Fu Panda.

      I do agree that the Furious five should be introduced more in the next movie, for one I feel that they ( discluding Tigress ) have'nt got enough screen time which is rather disturbing in my opinion. Although I wish the rest of the five got more, I can understand why dreamworks wouldn't make any of them secondary characters, it would be really hard. I think they give Tigress more screen then the rest of the five possibly becuase, probably to Po, Tigress is the most important to him out of the five. But still Definitely more of the five in the next movie, Please I want to see monkey prank someone XD.

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    • I think people undervalue how much they've gotten already. We know their backstories, personalities, fighting styles, how they interact with each other, likes, dislikes, and even seen some family members. The way people go on about this, you'd think we barely knew anything at all. I think the best solution would be an outright spin-off move entriely about the Five. That would be really cool. Though I'd rather it be the fifth movie for obvious reasons. :P

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    • I'd really like to see more focus on Crane.

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    • Berserker88x said:
      I think people undervalue how much they've gotten already. We know their backstories, personalities, fighting styles, how they interact with each other, likes, dislikes, and even seen some family members. The way people go on about this, you'd think we barely knew anything at all. I think the best solution would be an outright spin-off move entriely about the Five. That would be really cool. Though I'd rather it be the fifth movie for obvious reasons. :P

      I think a spin-off, as you said is in order. If so it should focus on the characters that were not focused on in the movies. That would at least satisfy all of us, if they don't give secondaries to the 4 of the Furious Five.

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    • Kung Fu Panda 4!? Whoa! Now I got few things in my mind to wondering something like:

      1) Po's Mother is still alive somewhere.

      2) Dunno who's the main villian this time for KFP4, like someone who ultimate powerful and evil than Kai, like someone from heaven commited a crime or brake a law and been punished by send it down on earth whatever this person have became after been banished from heaven.

      3) Since they had Dragon Warrior so how about Phoenix Warrior? That will be very interesting if Po meet Phoenix Warrior which it should be a female, beside dragon and phoenix are meant to be together, imagine with these two warriors combine their power to defeat an ultimate villain.

      Well I hope there's nothing any spoiler from all these 3, I mean its not like I can predict what's their idea story for KFP4 will be like, right? These 3 are just my guesses. :P

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    • Heather the dragon rider said: I'd really like to see more focus on Crane.

      I understand you. Me, I'd really like to see more focus on each member on the Furious Five.

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    • Part of me doesn't even want a Kung Fu Panda 4. The series already started to go downhill with KFP3 IMO.

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    • ^ I as well fear for the future of Kung fu Panda and I do agree that Kung Fu Panda 3 was a little bit of a let down, but I still think that the franchise should continue. All together the whole Kung Fu Panda legacy has been incredible and personally, I feel there is still more to explore and enjoy with KFP. Hopefully there is still more to come, and to be honest, I will always be a true fan and stand by the franchise and encourage it :)

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    • For KFP4, my hesitation of a Po driven struggle is that you have the issue of One Upping itself or its more technical term 'Power Creep' which a lot of Video Games struggle with within sequels. What this means is that a Movie will need to always 'up' its struggle over its predecesors for it to make sense for a character to develop further and justify another installment.

      This can be seen with the villains for KFP whereby initally Tai Lung was a Master of Kung Fu only, while in KFP2 Lord Shen is seen as a step up over Tai Lung in ability and danger which means Po would need to grow to match and overcome this challenge. In KFP3 (Which I haven't seen yet but already know the plot) it's clear that Kai is stronger than the villains in KFP1 and KFP2 as can be seen with Oogway (Who was initially the 'Strongest' Character in KFP1 as he defeats Tai Lung with ease while Shifu could not) which means the Plot and therefore side characters who were initally strong in earlier installments will become irrelevant without the Movie devoting time to showing/explaining to the audience how they have strengthened.

      DB:Z is another great example, with Goku (A Super Saiyen) and Vegeta (Another Super Saiyan) having the inate ability to become A LOT stronger if they survive a near death experience. Because this happens fairly frequently, and the show able to revive the characters from the dead with Dragon Balls, this can quickly lead to the Protagonist(s) becoming absurdly powerful and needing a villain capable of challenging them, therefore 'Power Creep' continues as those who were considered strong characters before now are incapable of directly affecting the villain. Initally, Freiza (The Pink Forehead dude with the tail) was the be all and end all of power, but this was escalited with Perfect Cell Saga (Green Lizard Man with Speckles/Spots) to being far more powerful to counteract the fact the Protagonist(s) had grown much stronger than what was available before. Finally, DBZ introduced Beerus (Sphynx Cat) who literally a God within that Universe who currently is at a power level stronger than the Protagonists can attain... yet.

      In KFP4, I hope they do not focus on a villain per se that's aimed at Po who would then need to vanquish the threat by making himself stronger but instead require him to think and perhaps take a much more spiritual journey to tackle a threat that could not be defeated with brute force that explores Po's perception of others and his relationship with them. For example, the film could utilise one of the Furious 5 and involve one of their conflicts that require Po to tackle the Issue/Threat in a new and thoughtful manner (Such as having a 'Villain' who doesn't need to be/can't be vanquished in a typical sense [ie: Family of a Member requiring Po to intervene, but require Po to not defeat the Antagonist by vanquishing them and instead persuade them with different view point that no-one else could articulate/show without a journey to reach that point] and therefore neutralise that Issue.Threat without increasing the Po's 'Power' Vs everyone else and negate another 'Power Creep')

      My 2 Pence. (Eh, I'm British, not American. No Cents here!)

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    • The "necessity" of having to constantly raise the protagonist's power level is a myth. You can have perfectly meaningful conflict without it coming down to who throws the hardest punch. Even in 3, Kai is the first villain that Po simply could not defeat on his own. He failed to master chi in time, and so he had to be saved by his fellow pandas instead, who were only able to save him because of what Po taught them. That's already proof that Po can find indirect means to defeat an enemy. Likewise, you can have a physically weaker villain that is still more dangerous, as Shen was over Tai Lung. Trying to make one stronger than Kai would be a bit ridiculous anyway. 

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    • ^ Fair point, though I still think what I said does have some effect on here as ultimately Kai is still overcome by force although granted it wasn't all Po.

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    • Do the directors of DreamWorks Animation have chosen the official release date of Kung Fu Panda 4?

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    • ^ No. Otherwise there would've been some sort of announcement about it on this wiki.

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    • A darker and more bleak theme with a bad guy or guys to match. Serious films always seem to be more interesting, at least for me. 

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    • KFP2 had a strong plot due to its darker tones, though this also made it a very good contrast for the film's comedy at times.

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    • It maybe possible for KFP4 to be more serious then Kung fu panda 3, but not as serious as KFP2. You never know :)

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    • ^ It's sure; date modified most likely 2022 since there is so many films put aside because of restructuring 2 films a year.

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    • ^ I hope its not that late, that sounds like a long time but who knows.

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    • ^ And I hope they won't repeat the errors of the Shrek saga.

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    • ^ Probably not, I mean they have done pretty good so far in the KFP franchise right?

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    • ^ I think if KFP 4 is anything like 3 they're probably heading down the wrong path. Don't get me wrong though, the franchise is pretty good as is but let's hope Dreamworks can learn from their mistakes i.e. Shrek.

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    • My hope for KFP4 (or KFP 5, or 6??)

      1. The fulfilment of Po first dream in KFP1. Notice that Po and Tigress already already wore the similar outfit to the dream. However Po had not use the Sword of Heroes.

      2. There would be a great war, possibly lead by a female villain.

      3. I am aware this is kids movie, there won't be any bloodshed or anything like that. But I hope less comedy that KFP3.

      4. As far as I heard Jen and Alessandro spoke on their interview that all the movie had to be independent of each other, you don't have to watch KFP 1, 2, or 3 in order to be able to enjoy 4. They threat it as stand alone film. Therefore I don't think they'll make Tai Lung or Wolf boss return as a good guy, 

      5. The death of one of the five, yes agree... possibly Crane. 

      6. As much as Mr. Ping, the voice actor is 87 years. If it take another 4 years to make another movie he would be 91 years. True that you can replace him with someone else. Also if you buy KFP3 art book, there is a scene whereby Mr.Ping was shot by a dart and laying on the ground surrounded by the five and Po.

      7. Shifu ascend probably at KFP6. 

      8. Po love interest.... which I think most likely to be Tigress. 

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    • Po and tigress go out,villian who turns everyone into evil except po because he is a dragon warrior, and master of chi, po knew he couldn't fight them by himself so he went into the spirit realm to release every good animal and including master oogways master to help him fight the war and turn everyone back to their normal self.

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    • I hope we'll soon have a confirmation of the official release's date.

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    • If they do make a 4th movie.. I hope Crane gets a bigger role since I feel like he is shrinking more in role in each passing movie.. Maybe the 4th will give some focus on him about since after all the things that happened to him in the 3 movies and Legends of Awesomeness(if they decide to deem it canon, I hope..), especially in the 3rd, he lost all of his confidence(which was a big part in his past, and this will be worse that the time in Legends of Awesomeness) and he felt jealousy in his heart(he might forgive Po since he is the dragon warrior.. but Tigress on the other hand..) That's all I have in thoughts for now..

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    • Less comedy would be nice, I really think they overdid it in KFP 3.

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    • Me, I hope:

      • Less comedy.
      • A darker tone.
      • A superexcellent scenario.
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    • Nightshroud96 said: If they do make a 4th movie.. I hope Crane gets a bigger role since I feel like he is shrinking more in role in each passing movie.. Maybe the 4th will give some focus on him about since after all the things that happened to him in the 3 movies and Legends of Awesomeness(if they decide to deem it canon, I hope..), especially in the 3rd, he lost all of his confidence(which was a big part in his past, and this will be worse that the time in Legends of Awesomeness) and he felt jealousy in his heart(he might forgive Po since he is the dragon warrior.. but Tigress on the other hand..) That's all I have in thoughts for now..

      Me too I hope Crane will have a bigger role; idem for Tigress, Monkey, Viper and Mantis.

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    • ^I actually thought Crane's role took a slight step up in KFP 3, at least from the second movie where his most memorable moments were very fleeting (Wings of Justice, dropping his jaw). In KFP 3, he actually got to confront the main villain and had to put up a fight without Po or the others to back him up. I appreciated that scene.

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    • ^ Me too ^_^; and I hope we'll soon have the confirmation of an official realease's date for the fourth movie.

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    • This idea isnt actually my idea its from my friend from instagram!(I also mixed my ideas too) like Tigress will find out that her relative (sister will be great, we need a female villain or not) is a bandit or in a bad gang or whatever you call it. Then Tigress has no choice but to joined them. Then they will have a raid in the Valley of Peace which she have to fight her battle comrades. Then ofcourse Po it wont be lost KUNG FU PANDA panda not tiger so he is the one will fight against Tigress one on one and help her realize that her choice is wrong while ofcourse fighting. Then when Tigress realizes it and give up. ITS NOT THE END. Then she will fight her relative until Tigress is defeated, and Po will fight her relative and vanish him/her to the spirit realm. OH ALSO TIPO.

      I also have an idea what if Tigress is a princess? That would be a great story for me. 

      Just giving some more info about Tigress's life or family her story seems interesting.

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    • ^ Sure, man; and I know what could be superexcellent:

      1. Tigress would learn she is the princess of an ancient Chinese kingdom.
      2. She would fight with a mysterious tigress thief, and there whould happen a dialogue in this style:

      "I am your sister.

      — No. It cannot be.

      — Ask your heart and you will see it's right.

      — Nooooooooooo! No."

      After this, Shifu, Po and the other Furious would help Tigress to investigate about her origins. And the other Furious would have more revelations about themselves.

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    • Po turns evil, and then its up to a new hero to stop him, and then after he is good again they realize it is actually a dark lord that turned po and other masters evil, and then they go stop the dark lord. And then they fighure out that it is po himself that is the dark lord and the other po was just a ghosly imposter Sound good?

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    • ^ I find this ideas really interesting; and I hope the official release date of this fourth movie will be quickly confirmed.

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    • ^^ it sound really good I hope that they make spirit's idea real

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    • I want a return to the darker and more adult tone that made Kung Fu Panda 2 the best of the series.

      I want bigger and more brutal fight scenes (possibly even some blood).

      I want Po and Tigress to tie the knot.

      Have another romance with two members of the Furious Five (I think Crane and Viper).

      Slowly shift the focus from Po to the Five.

      Have Shifu, Mr Ping, and Li Shan die (either by old age or by battle or by protecting whom they love).

      Perhaps there should be a war...

      And watch the characters grow throughout their whole life. Watch them get old.

      Have this "passing the torch to the next genration" theme, like Star Wars did.

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      Something so dark and evil it will shock the fans to their cores. Something so unprecedanted, a story so demonic, chilling and emontionally traumatizing it will bring new meaning to the universe of Kung Fu Panda. 

      The trials and tribulations Po will have to face will be his most challenging and unrelenting yet. 

      Also TiPo finds its way into the movie because the characters have so little left to cling onto except for each other. 

      That's exactly what I'm looking for, my friend.

      You've just read my mind.

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      I have a feeling the fourth movie is going to parallel KFP 2 and its serious, gloomy, feel like how KFP 3 paralleled KFP 1's lightheartedness and humor. Bet they're gonna sneak some TIPO in as well.

      I sure hope you're right about that.

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    • Dual Energon said:

      AlQaholic77 said:
      I have a feeling the fourth movie is going to parallel KFP 2 and its serious, gloomy, feel like how KFP 3 paralleled KFP 1's lightheartedness and humor. Bet they're gonna sneak some TIPO in as well.

      I sure hope you're right about that.

      Me too.

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    • VaporMist said: ^I actually thought Crane's role took a slight step up in KFP 3, at least from the second movie where his most memorable moments were very fleeting (Wings of Justice, dropping his jaw). In KFP 3, he actually got to confront the main villain and had to put up a fight without Po or the others to back him up. I appreciated that scene.

      Huh... I guess I felt like that because what happened to him AFTER that part..

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    • I am sure they'll sneak some Tipo moments in KFP (as usual), but honestly... after reading so many KFP fic (and concluding henceforth how many Tipo shipper out there), I kind of understand why Jenn implied on her podcast that Tigress and Po would remain friends in KFP universe. Even if, let say truthfully, they had certain of affection, some degree of protectiveness or sentiment towards each other... it won't be said explicitly in the movie, it would just be shown as shiptease.

      As much as I liked to get them hooked up, but I can imagine how romance is going to 'spoil' the movie. It would be so awkward to see Tigress' change of attitude (especially we all loved her for being hardcore and stoic), and yes... I like some of this stuff like kissing, marriage, kids etc (some really wild Tipo imagination) to stay in realm of fanfiction. But Jenn no longer with KFP, and the fact that DW already bought by Comcast could mean whatever previous authors/directors were planning for Tigress and Po may/may not hold. 

      If I can choose Tipo, it would be 5 minutes on the very last KFP movie.... and leave the rest to audience's imagination.

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    • How about this for Kung Fu Panda 4:

      • two years have passed since Kung Fu Panda 3

      • Po is now taken Shifu’s place and Shifu has become someone to watch over him and the Furious Five like Oogway

      • the Jade Palace is being rebuild, with the remaining knowledge of Oogway and now with the knowledge of  Po, Shifu and all the Furious Five

      • the Emperor of China, Hua Pond and his royal family are threatened by Jian, a vulture who wields a Chi power to turn people into stone

      • Eagle was a former student of Shifu who went on becoming a Master of Kung Fu and working for Emperor Hua Pond and Guardian Master Otter

      • Po must help Tigress win his love for her and rediscover her royal past and why she was orphaned and adopted by Shifu as his student

      • Eagle, Po and the Furious Five rendez with Princess Hua Ann who managed to escape Jian’s return attack on the Capital of China; this is revealed that the Emperor and his two daughters are Tigers and they have some sort of connection to Tigress with her real name being, Hua Su

      • In the end, Jian is turned to stone himself, Po learns the reverse of the stone turning Chi and saves everyone and Tigress stays with the Furious Five and decides to marry Po

      • There is a prophecy of a Phoenix Warrior who would bend both light and dark of Kung Fu; it’s revealed that Tigress is the Phoenix Warrior and she pairs with Po of all they learned to stop Jian, also their marriage helps binds both ends of the Yin and Yang together
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    • ^ It's superexcellent; you woud must mail this to Jeffrey Katzenberg.

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    • I really want something that confirms tipo although not romantic interactions but rather something like Ti opening her Talisman that shows Po and her together.

      This, on moments like them fighting one another (verbally or physically), would make it even more heartbreaking for tipo fans out there.

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    • Here is my storyline suggestion for Kung Fu Panda 4:

      1. Po 's panda father Li Chen and pandas will go back into panda village without Po....Po will decide to stay with Furious Five on Jade Palace.......Li Chen will sometimes to visit Po

      2. Jade Palace is in repairing (after destroying by Kai in KF3)

      3. Po will wear his Dragon Warrior outfit at all time

      4. Po will go retry to Kung Fu Valley, where Shifu learned him kung-fu in KFP1...........He will improve his kung fu skills and he will lost some weight, so he will look better. later he will arrive back to Furious Five on Jade Palace

      5. Mr. Ping will also learn kung-fu

      6. Tigress will show her emotions to Po...Tigress is first who is kissing Po ..Later after 2 weeks will decide to marry together and they say it to all who know....but date of their marriage is not set yet...

      7. Someone customer will arrive to Mr. Ping restaurant....He will eat noodle soup....then he says to Mr. Ping: Great noodle soup! Why is this noodle soup so good? Have you any secret ingredient, you give into this noodle soup?..............Mr. Ping says: No secret ingredient....It is normal soup with noodles...It is such as it is.........Customer is thinking a while Customer then says: Can I help you with your restaurant, Mr. Ping? I would like to help cook to you..........Mr. Ping says :: It would be good.....OK........So you can start now.... Customer shows his face.....:::: In fact he is Tai Lung but he is a bit masked...........Mr. Ping doesn´t know, that he is Tai Lung Tai Lung will help and cook together with Mr. Ping...and nobody knows he is Tai Lung

      8. Later masked Tai Lung will appear in Jade Palace with Mr. Ping....Mr. Ping will introduce guest..Po, Furious Five and Master Shifu will welcome new guest.......But then Tai Lung removes mask....And he shows that he is Tai Lung....Po, Furious Five and Shifu want to fight against him...but Tai Lung is full new guy....GOOD GUY...Something changed his heart......and he will talk about he was also released after Kai's dead... then he saw following events after Kai´s dead in KFP3 He said to Po and Furious Five that before in Spirit place he was thinking on all evils what he has done......he understood, he was underserving for being Dragon Warrior.....He longed for power, no for good name....He truly regrets his previous behaviour.. Tai Lung will ask for forgiveness from Master Shifu.....Then Tai Lung says,: ,, if you and my Master Shifu won´t forgive me....I will go out and you never gonna see me again´´........he is talking it with tears Shifu finally decides to forgive him but it was very hard decide.....Shifu is starting to cry also....They will reconcile....


      9. Tigress´s unknown sister Sue Chin will new villain of KFP4------she is very good in kung-fu and she is leader of bad kung-fu army...

      small group from bad kung-fu army will go to Valley under Jade Palace.-....they will attack on it............... but.Po, Furious Five, Shifu, Tai Lung will go to fight against them..Mr. Ping also will go with them.......Tai Lung will save Master Shifu life after attack.....for this, Tai Lung is injured....but he will be OK.....They will win over attackers.. Then they will know, that someone will destroy villages including this village...They get knowing from attacker...that Sue Chin will be leader.....Attackers will go out.....and Mr. Ping will say to Shifu, Tai Lung, Po, and Furious Five, this : I must to say to us some secret....I know, who is Sue Chin

      Mr. Ping will start to talk about what happened long time ago......Some parents with small baby arrived to him to restaurant...Mr. Ping was doing some thing .....the visitors were tigers....they said they are emperor and queen of China kingdom They said to Mr. Ping about what happened in their palace...... their older daughter Sua Chin in past changed her heart into dark.....she become criminal kung-fu villain and she wanted to be army leader and her sister (now it is Tigress) to get forcibly from her parents and learn her be bad..(so older daughter made army and she attacked on emperor palace and she wanted to grab her sister Tigress.... but her parents wanted to protect her...so they escaped from the kingdom in night and arrived here to village to Mr.Ping restaurant ... What can we do to protect her? said emperor and queen to Mr. Ping....It would be better, if our baby wouldn´t know , that she is Princess, because Sue Chin will find her....Is here orphanage? Mr. Ping said.....Yes, it is......There. ....We must go out,Please don´t say anyone, we were here,,said emperor and queen.. OK.....Good bye, your highness...said Mr. Ping...,,Then Mr. Ping turned back and he heard broke ...then he said.....,,Little Po----what are you doing again?.....Mr. Ping went to go on the first floor, because baby Po something broke.....The visitors left.......and nobody seen them anymore

      So Tigress is daughter of former emperor, because from that time her parents were not found in China...so everyone thought, they were killed after attack on emperor palace..(because Sue Chin not found her parents,, then she transformed two volunteers from army into emperor and queen and she killed them.........Then Sue Chin left with army because defenders of emperor palace were stronger than they.........So Sue Chin and army retreated and ran away).. After this... some other become emperor....he replaced previous emperor, ...........and he is actually current China emperor in KFP4 and he is old, but he is not tiger....

      10. Po will be kung fu teacher for Furious Five, Mr. Ping and Tai Lung...........Po will train them


      In the final battle....Po will be leader of good kungfu army...including Master Shifu, Master Oogway that arrived after Po´s supplication, Tai Lung, Furious Five, Mr. Ping and their big army...they will fight against bad army its leader is Sue Chin.............Po will have green sword...............Now Po is very great kung-fu master.......they will kill Sue Chin and save China from destruction....They will find Tigress´´ parents, that were prisoned by Sue Chin all time..........Sue Chin decided to keep live then...but in prison

      At the end................Po will have wedding with Tigress....................And on the end one female panda is looking on the wedding from roof of some house.....................It is Po´s mother......END!

      What do you think, guys?

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    • ^ All this ideas are super-nice; I hope we'll soon have a confirmation of the offical release date of the fourth movie.

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    • Honestly, I'd already be happy if the rest of the Five get more screentime and more importantly dialoge to make up for the focus on Tigress' relationship with Po.

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    • There was a thought I had about the fourth one.

      For starters, I get the deep feeling that the fourth movie will see our heroes out at sea.  I mean, in past movies they've made references to the sea.  In the second film, two things happen.  First, Po makes reference to pirates, which were not all that uncommon in ancient China.  Second, Lord Shen makes mention to his plans to sail with the tide and take over China through the sea.  Then, in the third film, we see Master Dolphin's armor, General Kai's ship run aground-turned-secret lair, and finally, Shifu himself makes reference to "every master from the sea to here" being gone.

      Call it crazy, but I get the feeling the fourth film will take place at sea.

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    • ^ Do you really think the fourth film will have pirates?

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    • I'd finally love someone other than Angelina Jolie to voice tigress, and to give tigress more of the feel she has in the tv show. Give her more of a secret fun loving side that's reopening itself. Also it'd be interesting if the next movie is about Po helping tigress find her origin. He's finall learn all about himself so soon jet not tigress and he comes to see it as unfair.So he decides to help.

      Then maybe tigress family has some powerful mystic origin of their own. A dark one that's caused misery for them. Like its being hunted down by forces serving a great demon.

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      Do you really think the fourth film will have pirates?

      Do I think it will?  I feel like you want me to say "no".  But I'll gladly say that if it does, I'll enjoy it all the more.  Never forget, there weren't just European "argh, me hearties" stereotype pirates.  There were a goodly amount of Chinese pirates, too.

      So to answer your question as best I can, I'll say no, I don't think it will.  But hey, anything is possible.

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    • ^ Well, unless George R. R. Martin is writing the fourth movie (hehe), it's highly improbable. I mean, who of the main cast has died thus far, with the exception of Oogway (who chose to ascend) and the three villains?

      How would the fans react to it?  We'd, depending on who it was, probably go from anywhere between shocked beyond reason to causally indifferent.

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    • The other old'er' man on the movie would be Po's Dad, Mr. Ping and Shifu... but it would break my heart if any of them die.

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    • I think that Po will find his mom almost dying and Po need to do everything he can, but there would probably be a villian that stops Po from saving his mom.

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    • ^ This could be a super plot's twist. And I would like the Furious Five be more developed.

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    • I hope a more serious storyline.

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    • A good sequel would have Shen returning and he Kills Po to make things Personal with shifu and the five!


      Po Turns evil and Kills Tigress, Master Crane, Etc. He also wants to take over China. Shen returns and faces po for the final time.

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    • ^ No that's not going to happen.

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    • ^ Yes it is. Come on. Shen returning and actually killing po is a good idea.

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    • I would like to see him return, although not as a main antagonist. What about having multiple villians in a movie? How would that roll out?

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    • ^ This could be good; for exemple, I would like to see evil versions of the Furious Five.

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    • I must be honest. I only read about half of these comments; there were just so many.

      I really am looking forward to a new movie, but I just can't figure out what in the heck they would do to up the action from Kung Fu Panda 3. I mean, we got Po learning kung fu in KFP1, then him gaining inner peace in KFP2, and finally he gains the power of chi in KFP3.

      I see this as a progression. First, he gains control over his body. Then his mind. And then his emotions. But...what would be next? Would we have Po as an old teacher in the next one, or something?

      Now, I'm almost certainly showing my ignorance here, but I couldn't really find any kind of other cool mystical Chinese material for them to use as the stories progress. I think they may have to bring in some kind of other countries, like Japan or something. We could get some ninjitsu going and basically bring in some other Eastern cultures and their mysticisms.

      Otherwise, I'm pretty much stumped. I'm sure they'll make another good movie, but I don't know how. I'm ready to be surprised.

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    • Ezekieljd said:
      I'm sure they'll make another good movie, but I don't know how. I'm ready to be surprised.

      Me too.

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    • I thought po turning evil was a good idea.

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    • ^ It is an interesting one for sure, it does seem a bit unlikely on the other hand. I think we'd all become depressed if such were to happen. But once again it is still an interesting Idea :)

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    • ^^ Yes, you thought it did.  But that doesn't really make much sense.  Why would Po suddenly switch allegiances at the drop of a (straw) hat?  I mean, he's never given any reason or motivation to do so.

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    • the fourth movie would have a demon possessing po, almost like how in the tf5 movie trailer optimus turns evil.

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    • ^ Very nice idea.

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    • I read through all of your ideas and I must say they are wounderful. But some expect WAYY too much from kfp4. 3 whole movies will come.I definitely expect kfp4 to be great but still leave a window open for kfp5 and 6 to follow. I expect some TiPo (not too much, just in a few scenes), a brand new villan that has nothing to do with the past villans and would definitely hope that the movie will say more about the other four in the furious five besides tigress. I think the character we have least heard about in all movies and the series is viper, so I hope to know more about her. Besides that I hope po will finally use one of the 7 (or 12) impossible moves he has learned in the series. After kfp4 I expect to find out about tigress's mother & father in kfp5 and maybe a conclusion to TiPo (hopefully!).

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    • The real thing we can expect from KFP4 is that the baddie will likely be some cut above Tai Lung, Lord Shen, or General Kai. Had I to guess, he (or she) would likely be someone tied into one of the main characters' stories, since:

      -Tai Lung is part of Shifu's story

      -Lord Shen is part of Po's story

      -General Kai is part of Oogway's story

      The question is, who? I suggest, like many of you say, that it might well be someone from Tigress' story, since her origins are not precisely clear. But only time will tell. Odds are, it wouldn't be from the remainder of the Five's past, since they, while being important to the stories, are not as major players as the others previously mentioned. I still remain adamant in saying that we may yet see our heroes out at sea.

      But only time will tell.

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    • KFP 4 takes place in present day and is focused on lord shen.

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    • ^ That seems a little contrived, doesn't it? I mean, it's a stretch.

      The films are called "Kung Fu Panda": they're about a panda, not a peacock. But hey, I'm all for a film about Lord Shen. I mean, as one of my favorite YouTubers put it, if Puss in Boots from Shrek got his own movie, and King Julien from Madagascar got his, what's to stop the folks at DreamWorks from making one about Lord Shen?

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    • ^ What i mean is kfp 4 at the beginning showing how lord shen became evil, and then the film shows po fighting a new villain for the rest of the film.

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    • ^ Okay, that's different.

      But why would it show Lord Shen? Is he part of the story of KFP4?

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    • ^ They should make him a minion of the new villain, then he is captured and charged with murdering pandas and arson all all of his crimes.

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    • ^ But how? Shen is dead. He was killed when the cannon on his ship fell atop him.

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    • ^ That could not kill however, according with Jeffrey Katzenberg, if DreamWorks Animation release Kung Fu Panda 4, Shen will be a secondary antagonist, suggesting that he survived to his cannon falling on him.

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    • ^ Okay, but can you back that up with a source? Where did Jeffrey Katzenberg say that? In an interview? Magazine article? Public statement?

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    • ^ Dreamworks wikia. They got in contact with jeffrey.

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    • ^ I'm looking at the Shen article there. I looked up the edit history: it was made up by some random user.

      Anyone can edit things on these sites, man. They didn't get in contact with him, what you said about Lord Shen was just made up by a user. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    • I think hopefully, if shen never returns, tai lung does and fatally injures one of the five and they die of their injuries. i hope it is crane that dies.

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    • ^ lol I also think that Crane will die, although I hope that DW do it for the sake of the story progression and make his death somewhat meaningful.

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    • Another great one is killing off monkey and viper making it the furious TWO.

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    • ^ Why are you so obsessed with killing off characters? This is Kung Fu Panda, not Game of Thrones. We don't kill people off just because their deaths would be "meaningful". Look at the artwork on these things: this is not a dark story.

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    • ^ Would say you're right. This franchise may not need to kill off any of the main characters, although there needs to be some kind of twists in the story to make it exciting.

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    • ^^ Yeah im wrong. Killing off tigress would  be good cause it would end the TiPo relationship.

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    • ^ I have to disagree with this one. From what I know there're lots of people who ship them. Doing so will anger the fans and possibly drive them away and btw I'm one of those people who wouldn't want to see Tigress die since she's my favourite character.

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    • ^ Yeah death would be a great choice since just turning her evil is a waste of time.

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    • ^ Explain how turning a character evil is a waste of time.

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    • ^ Nevermind. I still agree with death being a good choice.

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    • ^ That sort of thinking goes wholly against what these movies are.

      This is a story about a panda. Not a peacock. This is a story of bettering the self. Not death. And this is no story that needs wanton destruction and pain just for the shock value.

      I'm just saying, your words make little accordance with what we do know about these films.

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    • In the Fourth Film, The Valley of Peace is at war with a Peacock Clan, that vow to avenge Shen by attempting to kill everyone in the Valley. There. Is that a better choice?

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    • ^ Hardly.

      Not to crap on your opinions, mate, but peacocks don't particularly strike me as a warlike bunch. His own parents were displeased with his apparent wanton violence. Why not start over with a wholly new bad guy?

      But if it seems like a story to you, then you go along with it. Maybe pen a fanfiction about it.

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    • I guess the return of an even worser enemy than kai, 500000 years in the spirit realm for the mysterious new bad guy.

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    • ^ Could be. But I don't know.

      I think it'd be someone living. My guess? It's someone who challenges Po to use a different aspect of his training. And 500,000 years is a long time. Who knows what life was on Earth at that time? Couldn't be a more modern animal like a bull, or a snow leopard, or even a peacock.

      General Kai's gonna be a tough act to follow, whoever or whatever it is that comes next.

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    • There's a possibility that the legendary Loch Ness Monster will appear in Kfp4.

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    • ^ Now you're just being silly.

      Scottish folklore in ancient China? You've got to be trolling here.

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    • ^ There is a possibility scottish folklore could collide with it. im gonna think up something else.

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    • Maybe if they could bring all the kung fu villains in the spirit realm back to the mortal realm maybe by showing that because of Kai coming to the mortal  realm a gap has been left in which all the kung fu villains might have come out of. Maybe bring Tai Lung back the general who has come to know a power known as dark chi or spirit chi.

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    • Shen's demon that was inside him returns as well as shen himself.

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    • I read all of these and really like a lot of these ideas! To address some of the recurring themes here:

      - Firstly, I thought KFP3 was a bit too foolish. I understand that it's a kids' film also, and I like the humor, but I would rather they make the Five a bit more...professional? They were pretty serious in 1&2, but in 3 they didn't seem as badass...

      - That said, I would like more screentime for the Five, definitely. I was thinking maybe one of the future villains could be a relative (most likely a parent)--or whole family--that believes their child/relative (one of the Five) should have been the Dragon Warrior? Then it wouldn't be a case of one-upping the last villain (because while there would be action-packed fighting, they don't want to kill their relatives!), but trying to convince them the strength of friendship, and not only accepting yourself and others for who you are and they are, but also who you/they are not. And also address sacrifices, between your friends, family, and what's right.

      - I think Tai Lung returning as a good guy might not be a bad idea, but not in a sense that he returns completely to the mortal world to fight alongside the masters. I think more in a sense that he wants to make amends with Shifu and (somehow) contacts him. Maybe in the beginning through a dream, and later Shifu learning to channel energy from the Spirit Realm? (Maybe that could be a new technique that's introduced?)

      - I like TiPo, but I still want Tigress to keep her edge. I think while she still shows she cares about Po, in KFP4 maybe she'll show him that she's not going to give him special treatment. (In the later movies, when business is finally taken care of and their bonds are really strengthed, THEN I'd like to see it finalized.) I also think Tigress questioning her feelings while wanting to maintain face would be a nice relatable aspect to her character. On the other hand, I don't want this to be the center theme for the movie...

      - As far as Tigress's origins, maybe she gets curious after Po now finds his father, and asks Shifu about where she came from?

      - Maybe not in KFP4, but a later one, Mr. Ping dying could cause Po some real grief. Him wanting to get revenge and the Five trying to stop him and show him that it's the wrong thing to do would be a good chance to give the Five more screentime and elaborate their friendship, and also satisfy those people who want to see a darker side of Po. Or the death could be a major crisis for him and block him from using kung fu due to emotional trauma and lack of motovation. (Enter: Shifu learning to channel to the Spirit Realm to make amends with Tai Lung and also teaching Po to do the same with Mr. Ping + support from the Five and Po's new extended family.)

      - Shifu dying would be awful. It would have to be in a SERIOUSLY epic battle, but I think he should pass willingly, like Oogway did. Maybe near the very end of the series, where it's certain Po is about to overcome the hardest hurdle in his life, as well as Tigress, since that's the most important person in the world to her.

      (- Plot twist: Tigress gets jealous of Shifu's attention and pride towards Po and goes rogue, ridding all possible feelings she has for him and the Five?)

      - Some other regions' fighting styles being incorporated would be pretty cool! Whether it be an invasion, the Five adventuring out, or even an anonymous plea for help to them. Maybe chakra could be introduced, and the fighting style has to do with targeting the opponent's chakra points, hence the Five having to learn something similar to combat it, like how Tai Lung fought. That would be a good way for Shifu to get a boost in screentime (and the Five). Since the idea of chakra comes from India, MAYBE Tigress finds out that she's actually an Indian tiger--maybe royalty, like some other posts suggested?

      - Another thought, maybe as the Jade Palace is being rebuilt, some old scrolls are uncovered that turn out to be important? Or some of the old masters' artifacts are missing? That would be a good reason for the Five to go venturing out!

      - I also think that the pandas should continue to develop their chi, further than that which the others (besides maybe Po) can do, to the point where they can heal like they did before (also showing that chi's real power isn't something that just anybody can do willy-nilly, but has to be heavily practiced).

      - Lastly, that one post mentioning Viper and Crane got me thinking that it's kinda a cute couple.... (How dare you.) I wouldn't mind a couple hints in the movie, but I don't know if I'd want a full-fledged romance....

      - Also, Monkey and Mantis being besties is awesome. I wanna see Monkey save Mantis from getting his head bitten off if he gets a girlfriend, haha.

      Well, that's my long input! Hopefully not too many cliche topics here.

      (OH and little baby panda girl maybe starts copying Tigress and she takes her on as an apprentice...?)

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    • ^ I really hate anything to do with the Spirit Realm and don't want any more of it. That supernatural BS just destroys any sense of realism that KFP 1 & 2 had. In fact, I think anything in or to do with KFP 3 should not be revisited or included in future movies at all. I also hope that KFP 3 Po's dopey personality doesn't carry over into future movies. Yuck! 

      Just my two cents.

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    • ^ My thoughts exactly!

      That lighthearted tone of the 3rd movie just wrecked all the excellent stuff that came before.

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    • Lord Shen Returning and Destroying Gongmen City is another good idea. 

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    • ^ Shen is dead, man.

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    • The infamous black steel flying lizards return and destroy the entire valley of peace, only mr ping, po, li shan, the pandas, and the five, and shifu survive.

      The new main antagonists in kung fu panda 4 are the black steel flying lizards. They want to destroy china and imprison everyone. Some of the main characters would probably be killed by them, one being the dragon warrior.

      However, the black flying lizards are stronger then ever. they would be able to defeat the five, and dragon warrior (unless he uses the finger hold) and others.

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    • The characters like the tiger, the monkey, and the snake, you could use a bit of Zodiac facts to form their special scenes, you could use stories of children or crane folktales to help your ideas of the blue crane's new roles, and related to temples or related to fiction stories of Asia these would be ways to find the peaceful turtle at least a brand new friend. This series is worth a fourth movie.  I'd let the snow leopard return with at least a short scene.


      That's a quick saying to give Asia's unkown unicorns more reason to be shown other than what I've mentioned the the discussion I formed today. Tigress returning after saving her family of tigers In another country hurrying to Po then the Karkadan kicking and throwing these black lizards then if these black lizards are hit enough to be tired or weak enough to pause that gives the Kirin more characters to face and decide if guilty, and if not Po can finish fighting them while they're motionless. Asia's unicorns are at least in non-fiction sites and non-fiction books with photos to introduce them.

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    • Thom7 said:
      Here is a idea i have for a Kung Fu Panda 4 Scene and it involves tipo and it's also the scene where Po defeats the villain: "After Po chases the Villain on top of one of the Palace Roofs,the Villain takes Tigress hostage and during this whole sequence,both of them,fearing it may be their final moments together,admit their love for each other.And at the last minute,Po uses the wixi-finger move and saves the day".I think this would be a really sad but heroic scene.



      This is really cool!  I want TiPo to happen in the next film ^^

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    • Well spirit stuff or not Europe and America don't really know much of Asia's accurate festival reasons. We could show something like the Magpie Festival in this movie.

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